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Patrick Durusau (Editor of the ODF 1.2 spec) is now recommending approval of DIS 29500 as an ISO standard. Patrick's post "On being heard" explains this change in his position:-

On The Importance Of Being Heard
As a non-attendee to the BRM on DIS 29500, I have been trying to sort out fact from fiction in the highly imaginative accounts of the meeting. I have been able to isolate only one common point of agreement in all the published and unpublished reports that I have seen.

That point of agreement is that everyone at the table was heard. That may not seem like a lot to an Oracle or IBM, but name the last time Microsoft was listening to everyone in a public and international forum? At a table where a standard for a future product was being debated by non-Microsoft groups?

So, now that Microsoft is listening (something we should encourage), in an international and public forum, what are our options?

  • Reject DIS 29500? The cost of rejection is that ordinary users, governments, smaller interests, all lose a seat at the table where the next version of the Office standard is being written.
  • Approve an admittedly rough DIS 29500? That gives all of us a seat at the table for the next Office standard. Granting that I wince at parts of DIS 29500, it is hard for me to argue with that rationale.

Because approval of DIS 29500 insures an effective international and public forum whose members will be heard by Microsoft I recommend approval of DIS 29500 as an ISO standard.*

5 March 2008

Patrick Durusau

*This is a change in my prior position on DIS 29500. Different behavior has led to a different DIS 29500 and hence a different position on my part.

Comments

Stephen McGibbon said:

How?

# March 5, 2008 5:11 PM

Notes2Self.net said:

ISO and IEC have joined Ecma , Standard Norge , Dansk Standard and Standards Malaysia in posting a press

# March 5, 2008 6:58 PM

Chris Clark said:

Well, Malaysia would seem to disagree Stephen.  “Malaysia decided to vote ‘Disapprove’ to these undiscussed issues,” Fadilah elaborated, “The limitation of the BRM process clearly showed that such a task of approving this draft standard does not fit in the Fast Track process employed by Ecma International.

And 84% P-Vote delegations would seem to vigorously disagree either the standard, and/or the whole process one way or another.

No-one can quite understand how 'O' Votes were counted, because the rules are most clear on this.  O Countries have no vote.

And the audio file of the BRM proceedings might yet escape into the public domain (there's quite a hunt on for it) and that will be most interesting.

This standard won't go through.  There's no buy in.

# March 5, 2008 7:04 PM

Stephen McGibbon said:

Hi Chris, see my next post concerning buy-in - I think there is. But I guess we'll both have to wait and see.

I note the Malaysian press release also says

Puan Fadilah Baharin, Director General of STANDARDS MALAYSIA who was in Geneva to oversee the Malaysian delegates said, "The Malaysian delegation actively participated in the BRM, including making good technical suggestions on how to improve the proposed standard. We were impressed with the commitment and professionalism shown by all the technical experts represented by the various National Bodies.

The good news is that if it becomes an IS then this active participation can continue. That's the point of Patrick's "On being heard" post I guess.

# March 5, 2008 7:21 PM